McCain and Obama on Iran

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McCain and Obama Trade Barbs on Iran
By Michael Luo
Senator Barack Obama at a town hall meeting in Billings, Mont., on Monday. (Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times)
CHICAGO — Senator John McCain challenged Senator Barack Obama on his home turf here today, attacking him for comments he made over the weekend downplaying the threat posed by Iran relative to the former Soviet Union.
Mr. McCain, who was in Mr. Obama’s hometown to address the National Restaurant Association, diverged from prepared remarks on economic issues to get in his jab at Mr. Obama.
Believing keeping the focus on national security is advantageous to Mr. McCain, his campaign has been continuing to try to make hay over Mr. Obama’s stated willingness to sit down with the leaders of rogue nations.
Arguing for engagement with the country’s foes, Mr. Obama said in a speech on Sunday that “strong countries and strong presidents talk to their adversaries.”
John McCain in Chicago today. (Photo: Jeff Chiu/The New York Times)
“That’s what Reagan did with Gorbachev,” he said, adding, “I mean think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela—these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don’t pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. And yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying we’re going to wipe you off the planet.”
He went on to argue that Iran spends “one-one hundredth of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn’t stand a chance. And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen.” Mr. McCain seized upon those comments today, his voice stern and dripping with contempt: “Obviously, Iran isn’t a superpower and doesn’t possess the military power the Soviet Union had. But that does not mean that the threat posed by Iran is insignificant.”
Speaking during a town hall meeting in Billings, Mont., Senator Obama fired back at Senator McCain. “Let me be absolutely clear: Iran is a grave threat.” But the Soviet Union posed a bigger threat, he said.
Mr. Obama said Iran has been emboldened as a result of the U.S. war in Iraq. “Iran is the biggest single beneficiary of the war in Iraq,” he said. “John McCain wants to double down that failed policy.”
“We should not just talk to our friends we should be willing to engage our enemies as well,” Mr. Obama added. “That’s what diplomacy is all about.”
Mr. McCain’s appearance was marred shortly after his skewering of Mr. Obama by a trio of protesters who stood up and began to shout anti-war slogans. The crowd of several thousand booed the protesters as they were being escorted out. The women were wearing aprons that read variously: “McCain don’t buy Bush’s war” and “Cookin’ up war with John McCain.”
Unruffled, Mr. McCain picked up where he left off, saying “we all have the right to free speech.”
Mr. McCain made sure to make note of his presence on his likely Democratic opponent’s home turf, drawing laughter and applause with this joke: “Many Democratic voters in Illinois are especially proud of their junior senator. They believe more than ever that Barack Obama was the right choice for the Senate in 2004. I couldn’t agree more, and I promise to do everything in my power to help him finish his first term in the United States Senate.”
But the bulk of Mr. McCain’s remarks were on the economy, where he sought to differentiate himself from his Democratic counterparts—he mentioned Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and Mr. Obama early on but then focused exclusively on Mr. Obama—on taxes, trade and farm subsidies.
“Senator Clinton and Senator Obama have agreed to raise your taxes, to regulate your business more than ever, and to spend more of your money in Washington,” Mr. McCain said. “That’s their idea of “change,” but it sure sounds familiar to me.”
Mr. McCain also highlighted the episode that put Mr. Obama on the defensive while campaigning in Ohio earlier this year, when news leaked out that one of his senior policy advisers, Austan Goolsbee, had met with Canadian officials. According to a memo that was written up about the meeting by one official, Mr. Goolsbee downplayed the harsh rhetoric Mr. Obama had been using on the trail about the North American Free Trade Agreement as “political positioning.”
At the time, Obama officials said the memorandum inaccurately described Professor Goolsbee’s comments, as well as Mr. Obama’s position.
“Senator Obama is fond of scolding others for engaging in the “old-style politics,” but when he plays on fears of foreign trade he’s resorting to the oldest kind of politics there is,” Mr. McCain said. “It’s the kind of politics that exploits problems instead of solving them, that breeds resentment instead of opportunity.”

Notice how the article completely veered off Iran and drifted off into all kinds of other issues without a substantial discussion of Iran. What I am dumbfounded by is the unwillingness of our elected leaders to engage in any sort of substantive discussion of the politics on the ground in Iran - The Iranian people, Iran's version of Islam, Iran's place in the modern world, Iranian academic leaders, the Iranian version of democracy and theocracy, Iran's oil and gas resources and our strategic interests in it, Iran's influence as a Shiite theocracy on the rest of the Middle East, Iran's conflict with Al Qaeda, Iran's relationship with Syria and Hezbollah, A real clear discussion of where Iran is in building the bomb (people seem to have a muddled idea of where Iran is in terms of how much time they will need to build one. Estimates vary from 30 days to 10 years) etc. Do these people running for President think that we cannot handle the truth? Or do they think that our attention span is so limited that any substantive discussion is bound to fail? Is electing someone now an art of picking the wanna be with the best sound bites and who is able to project the most of scorn and contempt into their words? How tragic.